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General

The last DarkPinkCoal 25-person rotation has now come to an end and there's been much discussion about what was going to happen next. If you're a member of those teams, you're probably aware there have been some issues with getting sufficient people to attend Trial of the Crusader and Ulduar 25 runs of late. I'll talk about those issues in a separate post and what has been done in general about 25-person raiding in The Honourbound Alliance.

Icecrown Citadel has been released and DarkPinkCoal is regularly raiding on Tuesdays, Sundays, and Thursdays. Since Cannon's original message (below), some changes have been made:

Updates

  1. Raid end time is 23:30 server time, with overrunning approved by the team on a case-by-case basis.
  2. Raid composition changes (February 17):
    • Cannonised stopped playing.
    • Popcorn (melee) replaces Taletha (ranged)
    • Shapeshifto (healer) removed
    • Tyna (ranged) removed
    • Breicor (tank) stopped playing.
    • Perparim (ranged) stopped playing.
    • Sqog (melee) added
    • Drachonus (healer) stopped playing.
    • Divinity (healer) added
    • Zerdan (ranged) removed
    • Razaliel (ranged) added
    • Joard (ranged) added
  3. Some raid composition changes for team members:
    • Cannonised (ranged) will replace Cannonblast (melee)
    • Algoran (ranged boomkin) will replace Algoran (feral melee)
    • Taletha (ranged) will replace Popcorn (melee)
    • Shapeshifto added to list of healers.
  4. Attendance
    • Some people cannot regularly make a given night due to work, for example. Their "night off" will be the night they cannot attend (in other words, they'll probably always be at the bottom of the suicide list)
    • Missing a raid without warning in advance or a reasonable explanation (family emergency, working late, etc) after the fact will result in that person maintaining their current position in the list, so they will be potentially asked to drop out on another occasion as they reach the top of the list.
  5. Loot
    • Drops to buy recipes will go first to engineers.
    • After engineers have had a crack at recipe drops, anyone/everyone can roll.
    • SKG according to the looting rules for everything else.

Cannon's Original Message

Cannon said (with some minor formatting improvements):

The plan is to all but do away with the 3 individual 10 man teams and focus purely on the 25 man raids, running 3 nights a week practicing ICC as much as possible.

The 3 nights that have been decided are Thurs, Sun, Tues. Raid times are 20:30 server time (19:30 UK time) until finish. (23:30 server time as that is when the 10 man teams usually finish)

subject to change, the teams are comprised of...

Tanks - 2

  • Kanine
  • Shyne

Healers - 7

  • Ischtap
  • Rexmundi
  • Blackaddernl
  • Grimmjow
  • Baldette
  • Elsheindra
  • Divinity

Melee - 9

  • Devion
  • Gilghamessj
  • Popcorn
  • Chibiru
  • Enrico
  • Driftwood
  • Muadia
  • Phoeb
  • Sqog

Ranged - 9

  • Algora
  • Emptyskillbar
  • Joard
  • Jazhara
  • Giovou
  • Razaliel
  • Painterman
  • Animus
  • Veiliah

this gives a total of 27 people, which means 2 people will be taking a night off MAXIMUM (taking into account the people who cant make every run due to work etc that number is most likely to be 2). However with the possibility of no shows etc it is likely that number will be lower. It is very important people turn up if they can, we will be counting on every member. If it is proving to be too difficult to commit to the 3 raiding days you may want to consider standing aside and allowing someone who can make the days to have a shot.

As far as WHO will be taking the days off and when... no I will not be creating an elaborate rotation based on raid balance. I will be rolling a random list (probably using SKG) if it turns out we have too many people online then the person at the top of this list sits out 1 raid and 'suicides' to the bottom of the list.

If you do not show up for a raid without prior notice you will NOT get suicided until you have taken your turn. (with prior notice i.e. 24 hrs+ it may be that the night you cant make it be your 'Suicide').

Exceptions to this will be...

  • those that have already expressed difficulty with particular days due to prior commitments etc. (these will be ommitted from the list entirely)
  • Tanks. (difficult to rotate 3 tanks and the more stable the tanking team the better things will go.)
    If a night off by someone would overly compromise the raid balance (e.g. a healer when we are already short of healers) this last exception will be dealt with on the night

NOTE: Just because you are at the top of the list does not mean you are ok to just not show up. (as stated before if you do not show up without prior notice of 24 rs then you will NOT be suicided and you will be taking the next raid off also. This is to ensure we get the raid going even if we have a couple of no shows.

In order to avoid arguement and wasted time, Invites will start at 20:15 server time. At exactly 20:30 any overbooked people will leave the raid and that nights raid team will be fixed. If you are late and we are full you will be taking a night off. This is mostly to make the raid leaders head ache less wondering if people are gonna show up, and waiting 5 or 10 mins to see if they show up before replacing. People who know they will have trouble getting to the raid on time but can GUARANTEE they will be there can let me know and I will hold their spot. NOTE: this is for extreme circumstances. I do not want half the raid coming to me to book their place because they might get caught up watching the latest episode of House!

I don't think I need to tell you, but I will anyway...

  • Food, Flasks, potions. etc are a REQUIREMENT (its not like I ever forget to get flasks) Fish feasts may not be available (depending on how much we wipe!) so please have a stash of your own food.
    Please buy or make them BEFORE invites as people running to the AH at 20:35 because they forgot flasks will slow everyone down.
  • All being well we will be having a break half way through the night at which point people who have won gear can go and get it chanted and gemmed as long as they are quick however other than on that break please wait until AFTER the raid. Waiting 10 - 15 mins for one person to get this done is probably not worth the 50 dps increase that piece of gear will give you.

These are just a few of the points that have been raised to me in the past about how various things can slow raids down. (and yes I am as guilty as some and more guilty than most!!!) but if we are going to hammer ICC then we need to tighten up a bit and give it our all

Most importantly tho, as always, the point of the raid is still FUN, so if you have any issues about anything please /w Cannonblast, Devion or Veiliah and we will try to help but please keep it out of raid chat.

Read Cannon's original post/thread at YoG

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Shortcut to this page: http://www.honourbound.org/teamdpc

Team DarkPinkCoal will be starting this new 25-person group on Thursday, December 3rd. So that's this coming Thursday.

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I've added a shortcut to this information page. It's http://www.honourbound.org/teamdpc

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have the plans to include team Atomic Tangerine been scraped?

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Basil was supposed to answer this, but I see he hasn't said anything. This is on the list of things to be discussed at the pending raid leader meeting.

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Updated with some revisions about looting, attendance, and group composition.

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Team Leader Change

The team is now led by Basil/Veiliah (Roses of Dawn) with Devion (Ye Olde Geezers) acting as loot master. This is because Cannonblast has gone off to play Star Trek Online.

Other Changes (Removals)

Breicor (The One) and Drachonus (The One) have recently given up their raiding spots for real-life reasons.

Tyna, Shapeshifto, Zerdan (all of Ye Olde Geezers) either stopped coming or haven't attended for an extended period of time. Perparim (Roses of Dawn) stopped playing.

Other Changes (Additions)

Sqog (Phoenix Legion) was added to the roster of melee because he could not make Team Crimson Fury's raid nights.

Divinity (Ye Olde Geezers) was added to the list ofhealers.

Razaliel (The One) and Joard (Ye Olde Geezers) were added as ranged replacements for some missing people.

I've updated the roster accordingly.

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Today will be the last day of our DarkPinkCoal days as the team undergoes some more major structuring. Basil or I will make a new posting with the new arrangements soon.

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